Meeting Minutes for 30 July 2006

Jul 30 20:59:46 *    Sonar_Gal now calls this meeting to order.
Jul 30 21:00:01 corwyn    hehe Bob, you think you had it bad, I was terrified I'd lose more than I did
Jul 30 21:00:06 Sonar_Gal    meeting guidelines  http://fedoraunity.org/meeting-information/fedora-unity-project-meeting-guidelines/
Jul 30 21:00:21 Sonar_Gal    tasklist http://fedoraunity.org/meeting-information/task-list/
Jul 30 21:00:39 Sonar_Gal    1. Document our testing process to include step by step procedures for testing DVD and CD ISOs, this document will also cover all arch types i386, x86_64, and PPC. This is not going to be an easy task and was started by Jeroen van Meeuwen, a rough draft of this is to be presented at the 13 August 2006 meeting for the meeting members to review and comment on the progress.
Jul 30 21:01:06 Sonar_Gal    I believe we should skip this task this week as kanarip is on vacation/holiday.
Jul 30 21:01:23 Sonar_Gal    agree or disagree
Jul 30 21:01:32 corwyn    +1
Jul 30 21:01:59 Sonar_Guy    +1
Jul 30 21:02:45 Sonar_Gal    anyone else?
Jul 30 21:02:50 CyberSpy    +1
Jul 30 21:03:06 *    Sonar_Gal kicks Bob
Jul 30 21:03:43 Sonar_Gal    ok on to the next task.
Jul 30 21:03:49 Sonar_Gal    2. # Discuss adding a README to the ISO Directory that inclues Fedora Unity HOW-TOs on running SHA1SUM from Windows/Linux and Burning an ISO Image from both Windows/Linux. Both of these HOW-TOs also need to be added to FedoraSolved.Org
Jul 30 21:03:49 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-JUL-30
Jul 30 21:03:49 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Bob Jensen
Jul 30 21:03:49 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: Bob Jensen to complete 20060706, then we will then have to re-torrent the data and have our seeds get the new torrent. Message to be sent on the Test-List notifying that seeds will have to redownload after the change. To be addressed in the next release. Still in progress.
Jul 30 21:05:06 BobJensen    !
Jul 30 21:05:11 *    Sonar_Gal gives BobJensen the floor.
Jul 30 21:05:12 BobJensen    We will have this for the next ISO spin
Jul 30 21:05:15 BobJensen    EOF
Jul 30 21:05:24 Sonar_Guy    +1
Jul 30 21:05:37 Sonar_Gal    +1
Jul 30 21:05:43 corwyn    +1
Jul 30 21:05:47 corwyn    ?
Jul 30 21:05:51 *    Sonar_Guy states "Or my foot goes up BobJensens A$$"!
Jul 30 21:05:56 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Jul 30 21:05:59 corwyn    completion date?
Jul 30 21:06:01 corwyn    eof
Jul 30 21:06:08 *    BobJensen will BRB, Need to start fasting for blood work in the morning and i need to get some food in me
Jul 30 21:06:15 Sonar_Gal    k
Jul 30 21:06:26 BobJensen    !
Jul 30 21:06:32 *    Sonar_Gal gives BobJensen the floor.
Jul 30 21:06:49 BobJensen    corwyn: it is just about done already, will have an item for review tomorrow sometime
Jul 30 21:06:53 BobJensen    EOF
Jul 30 21:07:16 Sonar_Gal    corwyn, due date 1 week 2006 08 06
Jul 30 21:07:22 Sonar_Gal    3. # Discuss the translating of the various Fedora Unity sites to other Languages.
Jul 30 21:07:22 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-SEP-OCT
Jul 30 21:07:22 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Edit-Team
Jul 30 21:07:22 Sonar_Gal              * NOTES: Tabled till September/October timeframe after the release of FC6.
Jul 30 21:07:45 Sonar_Gal    This item has been tabled til the FC6 release.
Jul 30 21:07:56 Sonar_Gal    4. # Discuss adding metadata and Updating license agreement on each post and on all Fedora Unity Websites. Need a standard format for the metadata to make it easy for users and reviewers to do this. Generate a submission process that would allow for the site to e-mail the members of the Content Team when a new post is submitted for review.
Jul 30 21:07:56 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-JUL-25
Jul 30 21:07:56 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Edit-Team
Jul 30 21:07:56 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: grammar/spelling also this is pushed till the next meeting. To be worked out on Mailing list; Work has starting on customizing the workflow. Tabled until 2006-JUL-25. copyright notices to be editted 23-JUL-2006.
Jul 30 21:08:14 BobJensen    !
Jul 30 21:08:18 *    Sonar_Gal gives BobJensen the floor.
Jul 30 21:08:57 BobJensen    rewrite this task for the current stuff I have contacted a friend who is an editor that I have not worked with in a while she is interested
Jul 30 21:09:19 BobJensen    in helping us out with spelling anf grammar stuff
Jul 30 21:09:21 BobJensen    EOF
Jul 30 21:09:42 corwyn    !
Jul 30 21:09:47 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Jul 30 21:10:02 Sonar_Guy    !
Jul 30 21:10:04 corwyn    we've gone through the sites and updated the copyrights on all posts and pages
Jul 30 21:10:11 corwyn    eof
Jul 30 21:10:13 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Jul 30 21:10:37 Sonar_Guy    This task is completed.  Needs to be removed from the task list.  EOF
Jul 30 21:10:49 corwyn    +1
Jul 30 21:10:53 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: +1
Jul 30 21:10:55 Sonar_Gal    +1
Jul 30 21:10:58 BobJensen    !
Jul 30 21:11:06 *    Sonar_Gal gives BobJensen the floor.
Jul 30 21:11:32 BobJensen    We do still need to get all of our posts checked for speling and grammar, so a new item that covers only that?
Jul 30 21:11:34 BobJensen    EOF
Jul 30 21:11:45 corwyn    !
Jul 30 21:11:50 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Jul 30 21:11:59 *    CyberSpy_LT (n=cyberspy@cpe-065-191-191-010.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #fedora-unity
Jul 30 21:12:42 corwyn    we also need to go through a number of posts and rewrite them to the template. Any assistance with editting is appreciated. Please feel free to let me know what other issues the edit team needs to deal with.
Jul 30 21:12:44 corwyn    eof
Jul 30 21:12:55 Sonar_Guy    !
Jul 30 21:13:00 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Jul 30 21:13:30 Sonar_Guy    BobJensen: Lest add another task Assigned to the edit team to clean up grammer/format the posts as a Pri 2 ongoing task.
Jul 30 21:13:34 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Jul 30 21:14:05 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: +1
Jul 30 21:14:14 corwyn    |1
Jul 30 21:14:17 corwyn    er +1
Jul 30 21:14:21 Sonar_Gal    +1
Jul 30 21:14:38 Sonar_Gal    5. # Next update to RESPIN ISOs of FC5.
Jul 30 21:14:38 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-JUL-28
Jul 30 21:14:38 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Re-Spin Team
Jul 30 21:14:38 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: First Re-Spin release it out dated 2006-May-23, Next release for test is due 3rd week of June. Bob tested i386 and x86_64, both work, will shoot for a snapshot tuesday. To be fully completed 2006-JUL-09. Waiting to see if FC6 will still need respins. Next respin ready for testing 2006-JUL-23. Waiting for new kernel to be released due to preliminary testing issues.
Jul 30 21:15:03 BobJensen    !
Jul 30 21:15:12 *    Sonar_Gal gives BobJensen the floor.
Jul 30 21:15:31 autopsy    !
Jul 30 21:15:35 BobJensen    Re-Spins are on a hold for right now, waitin on a new kernel...
Jul 30 21:15:41 Sonar_Guy    +1
Jul 30 21:15:44 Sonar_Gal    +1
Jul 30 21:15:47 corwyn    ?
Jul 30 21:15:49 autopsy    +1
Jul 30 21:15:50 corwyn    +1
Jul 30 21:15:51 BobJensen    Hoping for one last week but that did not happen.
Jul 30 21:15:53 BobJensen    EOF
Jul 30 21:15:58 corwyn    estimated date?
Jul 30 21:15:58 *    Sonar_Gal gives autopsy the floor.
Jul 30 21:16:03 corwyn    oops
Jul 30 21:16:10 *    corwyn hides in shame
Jul 30 21:16:13 BobJensen    corwyn: Target Friday
Jul 30 21:16:32 autopsy    Talking about respins of ISOs.. I was curious what is the progress of spinning LiveCD for testing purposes?
Jul 30 21:16:47 Sonar_Guy    !
Jul 30 21:16:49 autopsy    I guess that's a question and not related to your topic. :/
Jul 30 21:16:50 autopsy    EOF
Jul 30 21:16:57 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Jul 30 21:17:14 CyberSpy    !
Jul 30 21:17:21 corwyn    X (spoke out of turn) eof
Jul 30 21:17:26 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Jul 30 21:17:26 Sonar_Guy    autopsy: lets discuss that at the end of the meeting.
Jul 30 21:17:29 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Jul 30 21:17:36 *    Sonar_Gal gives CyberSpy the floor.
Jul 30 21:17:50 CyberSpy    I would like to talk about some things for a livecd as well
Jul 30 21:17:51 CyberSpy    EOF
Jul 30 21:18:28 BobJensen    !
Jul 30 21:18:38 *    Sonar_Gal gives BobJensen the floor.
Jul 30 21:18:39 BobJensen    Next? EOF
Jul 30 21:19:06 Sonar_Gal    6. # Test next release for Fedora Unity Re-Spins.
Jul 30 21:19:06 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-JUL-30
Jul 30 21:19:06 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Test-Lead
Jul 30 21:19:06 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: All testing to be completed No later than 2006-JUL-30. Update the testing matrix as you complete a task on the list.
Jul 30 21:19:22 Sonar_Guy    !
Jul 30 21:19:31 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Jul 30 21:19:53 Sonar_Guy    We need to push this till a week after the new kernel is released.
Jul 30 21:19:55 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Jul 30 21:20:14 Sonar_Gal    say the 11th aug
Jul 30 21:20:28 Sonar_Guy    !
Jul 30 21:20:34 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Jul 30 21:20:35 BobJensen    !
Jul 30 21:20:51 Sonar_Guy    I think we also need to put a notice on the Torrent page stating the reason for the delay. EOF
Jul 30 21:20:58 *    Sonar_Gal gives BobJensen the floor.
Jul 30 21:21:33 BobJensen    I am hoping that we will have new ISOs early this week, I think a delay note is a good idea, I would hope we can  have testing done by this time next week
Jul 30 21:21:36 BobJensen    EOF
Jul 30 21:22:18 Sonar_Gal    7.    7. Create back-up of the servers Unity01, Unity02, and Unity03 every sunday after the meeting. Also create a backup prior to any major configuration change.
Jul 30 21:22:18 Sonar_Gal              * DATE DUE: On-Going
Jul 30 21:22:18 Sonar_Gal              * ASSIGNED: Bob Jensen
Jul 30 21:22:18 Sonar_Gal                    o NOTES: Backup, Backup, Backup!!
Jul 30 21:22:22 BobJensen    !
Jul 30 21:22:29 *    Sonar_Gal gives BobJensen the floor.
Jul 30 21:22:42 BobJensen    should not be an issue, doing a normal snapshot this week
Jul 30 21:22:46 BobJensen    EOF
Jul 30 21:22:49 Sonar_Gal    good
Jul 30 21:22:57 BobJensen    !
Jul 30 21:23:05 *    Sonar_Gal gives BobJensen the floor.
Jul 30 21:23:13 BobJensen    No downtime is xpected in the next week BTW
Jul 30 21:23:18 BobJensen    EOF
Jul 30 21:23:53 *    Sonar_Gal now opens the floor so people can discuss there idea's or ask questions?
Jul 30 21:23:54 BobJensen    !
Jul 30 21:24:13 BobJensen    23 Minutes good Job!
Jul 30 21:24:26 BobJensen    OK LiveCD ideas?
Jul 30 21:24:30 Sonar_Gal    yup
Jul 30 21:24:42 Sonar_Guy    autopsy CyberSpy bring up your ideas.
Jul 30 21:24:59 corwyn    !
Jul 30 21:24:59 CyberSpy    !
Jul 30 21:24:59 BobJensen    Is this something we have the manpower for to push a "Unity LiveCD" out to the community?
Jul 30 21:25:24 Sonar_Gal    corwyn, CyberSpy open floor discussion
Jul 30 21:25:26 BobJensen    Open Floor
Jul 30 21:25:40 BobJensen    I think we have provent the power of our torrent system
Jul 30 21:25:50 CyberSpy    I would like to see some "gray area" addition on it, like mp3/video support, I know that's a touchy subject
Jul 30 21:25:52 BobJensen    proven
Jul 30 21:25:57 CyberSpy    but for a LiveCD it's needed
Jul 30 21:26:06 CyberSpy    also, good wifi support (like broadcom) built in
Jul 30 21:26:10 Sonar_Guy    CyberSpy: that is not going to happen, we can not include grey area items.
Jul 30 21:26:37 Sonar_Guy    CyberSpy: the legal ramifications of that are not worth the risk.
Jul 30 21:26:43 BobJensen    CyberSpy: even Livna will be chaging as a result of some things, we should be very careful
Jul 30 21:26:43 autopsy    CyberSpy, ABSOLUTELY _not_.
Jul 30 21:27:05 CyberSpy    ok
Jul 30 21:27:07 BobJensen    CyberSpy: I really do not htink it is worth the risks
Jul 30 21:27:16 CyberSpy    What about the GUI, KDE should be included
Jul 30 21:27:39 BobJensen    CyberSpy: the ATi and Nvidia drivers will be leaving even livna shortly the way things are looking
Jul 30 21:27:45 autopsy    CyberSpy, I believe though, RAWHIDE and TestX LiveCDs can be helpful to bug-smashers and people who want to try RAWHIDE, without installing it first.. cause it could be broken.. of course.
Jul 30 21:27:47 CyberSpy    oh wow, that sucks
Jul 30 21:27:52 Sonar_Guy    CyberSpy: that should be possible depending on the size of the image.
Jul 30 21:28:18 CyberSpy    That's a topic for post meeting
Jul 30 21:28:29 autopsy    Sonar_Guy, also: I believe though, RAWHIDE and TestX LiveCDs can be helpful to bug-smashers and people who want to try RAWHIDE, without installing it first.. cause it could be broken.. of course.
Jul 30 21:28:30 CyberSpy    no ATI/Nvidia support is going to hurt Fedora
Jul 30 21:28:50 Sonar_Guy    BobJensen: I wonder if the will just release the src rpm such as jpackage does for java.
Jul 30 21:29:04 Sonar_Guy    autopsy: I fully agree.
Jul 30 21:29:12 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: time will have to tell how things happen
Jul 30 21:29:37 Sonar_Guy    I am going to grab the src rpms before they get removed.
Jul 30 21:30:33 BobJensen    here for those of you who missed it
Jul 30 21:30:42 BobJensen    http://livna.org/pipermail/freeworld/2006-July/000546.html
Jul 30 21:30:53 BobJensen    http://livna.org/pipermail/freeworld/2006-July/000549.html
Jul 30 21:31:35 autopsy    Sonar_Guy, it will be another few days before I personally think we can roll out LiveCD media.. however, you are also having the task of the respinning of Official releases. So I am in no rush if you aren't. How do I get LiveCD on the priority list, any ideas?
Jul 30 21:32:14 Sonar_Guy    What do you mean on the priority list?  The task list?
Jul 30 21:32:23 autopsy    Task list, yes sorry.
Jul 30 21:32:46 Sonar_Guy    corwyn: you want to add that task, below the respins task.
Jul 30 21:33:06 Sonar_Guy    autopsy: we also have to look at the logistics of getting the image to the btserver.
Jul 30 21:33:09 corwyn    I can do that
Jul 30 21:33:14 corwyn    give me a few minutes
Jul 30 21:33:59 corwyn    autopsy, if you'll write a quick blurb for posting to the task list, and pm it to me with a proposed completion date, I'll post it
Jul 30 21:34:27 autopsy    Sonar_Guy, ok. RAWHIDE spins can be totally automated, the TestX spins I think should be done once (of course).
Jul 30 21:34:46 Sonar_Guy    We need to get with damaestro to see how he wants to add them to the server.
Jul 30 21:35:23 autopsy    Excellent. So shall we discuss this more at the next meeting, sound good to you?
Jul 30 21:35:24 corwyn    I've got something I'd like to bring up when we're done discussing the livecd
Jul 30 21:35:36 autopsy    Sonar_Guy, Excellent. So shall we discuss this more at the next meeting, sound good to you?
Jul 30 21:35:44 BobJensen    autopsy: Might bring this to our test list
Jul 30 21:35:45 autopsy    E.g not in mieeting, at.
Jul 30 21:36:15 BobJensen    autopsy: we are trying to get in the habit of discussing things on the mailing lists rather than in the meetings
Jul 30 21:36:33 BobJensen    autopsy: Nice to see you back BTW
Jul 30 21:36:48 autopsy    BobJensen, which list, fedora-test-list or fedora-unity-list, which one do I need to sign up for?
Jul 30 21:37:03 autopsy    Yes, thanks. I am glad to see this project evolve.
Jul 30 21:37:07 Sonar_Gal    autopsy, both would be a good idea
Jul 30 21:37:15 autopsy    Ok.
Jul 30 21:37:20 BobJensen    autopsy: not the fedora-test-ist
Jul 30 21:37:30 BobJensen    we have several lists
Jul 30 21:37:40 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: do you have list links?
Jul 30 21:37:52 BobJensen    I don't have the links on this machine
Jul 30 21:37:53 Sonar_Gal    1 sec
Jul 30 21:38:09 Sonar_Guy    http://lists.fedoraunity.org/mailman/listinfo/
Jul 30 21:38:37 BobJensen    autopsy: Test-Team
Jul 30 21:38:44 autopsy    Bingo.. thanks!
Jul 30 21:39:20 corwyn    As Edit team lead, I wrote up some guidelines for edit team members to follow when editting posts, after the content team has finished with them. Sonar_guy has reviewed them already, with everyone's approval, I'd like to have it posted to the Fedora Unity site and e-mail it to the edit-team mailing list.
Jul 30 21:39:35 Sonar_Guy    +1
Jul 30 21:39:40 BobJensen    Good idea
Jul 30 21:39:48 Sonar_Gal    +1
Jul 30 21:40:05 corwyn    I also recommend that each team have some form of guidelines as well, to help things run smoothly
Jul 30 21:41:09 corwyn    ok, I'll put them up in a my folder to start so people can read them over before posting and e-mailing them, I'm sure people will have comments
Jul 30 21:41:39 corwyn    that's all I have
Jul 30 21:42:05 corwyn    +1 :)
Jul 30 21:42:11 Sonar_Gal    +1
Jul 30 21:42:26 Sonar_Guy    +1
Jul 30 21:42:30 BobJensen    this week i started packaging a few items I would like to get in to extras
Jul 30 21:42:48 corwyn    cool
Jul 30 21:43:10 BobJensen    they are related to my Ham Radio hobby we tested the three items I packaged so far last night
Jul 30 21:43:17 Sonar_Gal    Any other items that need to be discussed for the meeting?
Jul 30 21:43:31 corwyn    none here
Jul 30 21:43:53 BobJensen    again this is related to us being active parts of the formal projects
Jul 30 21:43:57 Sonar_Gal    vote on closing the meeting?
Jul 30 21:44:04 Sonar_Gal    ok
Jul 30 21:44:35 BobJensen    How can we start getting out posts that are right for the formal projects moved to them?
Jul 30 21:44:47 BobJensen    any ideas?
Jul 30 21:45:04 Sonar_Guy    We need to work on doing the post export to the format for the docs project.
Jul 30 21:45:20 BobJensen    I guess my question is really what are we missing that can go "up stream" if you will
Jul 30 21:45:56 BobJensen    We have not been brain storming in a while and I thing that is missing form our overall mission,
Jul 30 21:46:10 Sonar_Guy    I am starting to assemble the Installation stuff for the IG, but it would be really nice if we could export from the site to doc book format.
Jul 30 21:46:42 BobJensen    OK so plone -> DocBook is a bit of what we and they need
Jul 30 21:46:58 autopsy    Sonar_Guy, adding to the task list.. please review it. (Test LiveCDs, RAWHIDE LiveCDs)
Jul 30 21:47:31 BobJensen    corwyn: here is another task item Pri 1 DocBook Conversion and inport
Jul 30 21:47:41 BobJensen    import
Jul 30 21:48:15 Sonar_Guy    import/export
Jul 30 21:48:34 BobJensen    corwyn: "what steps or add-ons will be required for docBook XML Import and Export from Plone"
Jul 30 21:48:47 Sonar_Guy    export from zope/plone to doc book, and import doc boot to zope/plone.
Jul 30 21:48:55 BobJensen    yup
Jul 30 21:49:39 BobJensen    any additional items for review over the next week on the task list?
Jul 30 21:49:55 *    corwyn has quit (Remote closed the connection)
Jul 30 21:49:55 BobJensen    I have nothign more
Jul 30 21:49:56 Sonar_Gal    we really need to do pri2 and 3 next week
Jul 30 21:50:17 BobJensen    Sonar_Gal: lets get that added as a Pri 1 task then
Jul 30 21:50:37 BobJensen    we shoudl touch those items atleast once a month
Jul 30 21:50:55 Sonar_Gal    ok that's fine so we can update pri 2 and 3 move stuff kill completed stuff and such
Jul 30 21:51:15 *    corwyn (n=corwyn@unaffiliated/corwyn) has joined #fedora-unity
Jul 30 21:51:24 corwyn    damnit
Jul 30 21:51:27 *    corwyn (n=corwyn@unaffiliated/corwyn) has left #fedora-unity ("Leaving")
Jul 30 21:52:39 *    corwyn (n=corwyn@unaffiliated/corwyn) has joined #fedora-unity
Jul 30 21:52:42 corwyn    damnit
Jul 30 21:52:48 corwyn    X locked up
Jul 30 21:52:58 corwyn    and all my edits to the task list are lost
Jul 30 21:53:25 Sonar_Gal    corwyn, can you please add pri 2 and 3 review next week to task list pri 1.
Jul 30 21:53:37 corwyn    once I fix what was just list
Jul 30 21:53:39 corwyn    er lost
Jul 30 21:53:41 Sonar_Gal    corwyn, give me a sec I will go through and PM you everything
Jul 30 21:53:50 corwyn    k
Jul 30 21:53:57 *    corwyn sighs
Jul 30 21:53:58 BobJensen    "first meetign of the month every month review Pri 2 and 3 items"
Jul 30 21:54:15 corwyn    autopsy, can you resend that post please
Jul 30 21:54:51 CyberSpy_LT    Sonar_Guy saved me (yet again) going to reboot this laptop and check that my wifi comes up automagically, brb
Jul 30 21:55:17 CyberSpy_LT    I think I may have to name my first born after Mr and Mrs Sonar
Jul 30 21:55:19 CyberSpy_LT    brb
Jul 30 21:55:25 *    CyberSpy_LT has quit ("Konversation terminated!")
Jul 30 21:56:29 BobJensen    here is the stuff I have been working on for packaging BTW http://fedoraunity.org/Members/bobjensen/ham-stuff/packages-for-extras
Jul 30 21:57:03 BobJensen    Many thanks need to go out to Foolish and nman64 for help in getting things rolling on that front
Jul 30 21:57:41 BobJensen    I am going to package two more items tonight and then go looking to see what else I can find
Jul 30 21:58:11 BobJensen    Meeting Close?
Jul 30 21:58:33 Sonar_Gal    +1
Jul 30 21:58:49 *    Sonar_Gal now closes this meeting thanks to everyone who attended tonight