Meeting Minutes for 6 August 2006

Aug 06 21:03:43 *    Sonar_Gal now calls this meeting to order.
Aug 06 21:03:53 EvilBob    Hi All, sorry I'm late
Aug 06 21:04:01 Sonar_Gal    Not late yet
Aug 06 21:04:21 Sonar_Gal    tasklist for tonights meeting.   http://fedoraunity.org/meeting-information/task-list/
Aug 06 21:04:37 Sonar_Gal    1.  # Document our testing process to include step by step procedures for testing DVD and CD ISOs, this document will also cover all arch types i386, x86_64, and PPC. This is not going to be an easy task and was started by Jeroen van Meeuwen, a rough draft of this is to be presented at the 13 August 2006 meeting for the meeting members to review and comment on the progress.
Aug 06 21:04:37 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-AUG-13
Aug 06 21:04:37 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Testing Team Lead and Jeroen van Meeuwen
Aug 06 21:04:37 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES:  1st rough draft has been completed. Further cleanup/editting required.
Aug 06 21:05:08 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:05:12 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:05:22 daMaestro    anyone worked on a script for getting test results? EOF
Aug 06 21:06:58 *    Sonar_Gal thinks kanarip is still on Holiday/Vacation and he was working on this so no clue where we are at this time.
Aug 06 21:07:05 daMaestro    ok
Aug 06 21:07:52 Sonar_Gal    next
Aug 06 21:08:02 daMaestro    +1
Aug 06 21:08:06 Sonar_Gal    2. # Discuss adding a README to the ISO Directory that inclues Fedora Unity HOW-TOs on running SHA1SUM from Windows/Linux and Burning an ISO Image from both Windows/Linux. Both of these HOW-TOs also need to be added to FedoraSolved.Org
Aug 06 21:08:06 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-AUG-06
Aug 06 21:08:06 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Bob Jensen
Aug 06 21:08:06 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: Bob Jensen to complete 20060706, then we will then have to re-torrent the data and have our seeds get the new torrent. Message to be sent on the Test-List notifying that seeds will have to redownload after the change. To be addressed in the next release. Still in progress.
Aug 06 21:09:13 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:09:22 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:09:23 EvilBob    Still waiting on a new kernel
Aug 06 21:09:26 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 21:09:34 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:09:38 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:09:42 daMaestro    is the document ready? EOF
Aug 06 21:09:57 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:10:02 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:10:22 EvilBob    we are ready
Aug 06 21:10:25 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 21:10:59 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:11:05 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:11:21 *    daMaestro moves to complete the item.. and remove it from todo
Aug 06 21:11:23 daMaestro    EOF
Aug 06 21:11:36 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:11:40 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:11:56 EvilBob    We can close it once I post the info to the site
Aug 06 21:12:01 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 21:12:03 daMaestro    ok
Aug 06 21:12:21 Sonar_Gal    3. # Discuss the translating of the various Fedora Unity sites to other Languages.
Aug 06 21:12:22 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-SEP-OCT
Aug 06 21:12:22 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Edit-Team
Aug 06 21:12:22 Sonar_Gal              * NOTES: Tabled till September/October timeframe after the release of FC6.
Aug 06 21:12:41 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:12:49 Sonar_Gal    This item has been tabled til Next FC release.
Aug 06 21:12:52 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:12:52 daMaestro    ok
Aug 06 21:12:56 daMaestro    EOF
Aug 06 21:13:12 Sonar_Gal    4. # Discuss adding metadata and Updating license agreement on each post and on all Fedora Unity Websites. Need a standard format for the metadata to make it easy for users and reviewers to do this. Generate a submission process that would allow for the site to e-mail the members of the Content Team when a new post is submitted for review.
Aug 06 21:13:12 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: Completed
Aug 06 21:13:12 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Edit-Team
Aug 06 21:13:12 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: grammar/spelling also this is pushed till the next meeting. To be worked out on Mailing list; Work has starting on customizing the workflow. Tabled until 2006-JUL-25. copyright notices to be editted 23-JUL-2006.
Aug 06 21:13:20 corwyn    !
Aug 06 21:13:24 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Aug 06 21:13:28 corwyn    done, can be removed from list
Aug 06 21:13:33 corwyn    eof
Aug 06 21:13:35 Sonar_Guy    +1
Aug 06 21:13:39 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:13:40 Sonar_Gal    +1
Aug 06 21:13:43 daMaestro    +1
Aug 06 21:13:43 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:13:51 daMaestro    the workflow mailing still needs work
Aug 06 21:14:04 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 06 21:14:43 daMaestro    but i have the basics setup.. just need to find a reliable way to pull object data and will look to poi for ideas on how to do so. the main issue is our default state for content... so we have to work around that EOF
Aug 06 21:14:59 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 21:15:01 Sonar_Guy    daMaestro: I entered the feature request bug on that so we can status the work flow e-mail task from there.
Aug 06 21:15:02 corwyn    ?
Aug 06 21:15:04 Sonar_Guy    eof
Aug 06 21:15:08 daMaestro    Sonar_Guy, thank you
Aug 06 21:15:09 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:15:13 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Aug 06 21:15:37 corwyn    the idea of a check-in check-out system has been suggested, does zope/plone have such a mechanism?
Aug 06 21:15:38 corwyn    eof
Aug 06 21:15:43 daMaestro    yes
Aug 06 21:15:44 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:16:07 daMaestro    i think even cmfeditions deals with some of it
Aug 06 21:16:22 daMaestro    however, there might be a need to have a good backend.. such as svn or cvs
Aug 06 21:16:26 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 06 21:16:32 daMaestro    there is Zope Version Control
Aug 06 21:16:47 daMaestro    and it would just take a little work to enable the check-in and check-out features
Aug 06 21:17:04 daMaestro    per the email: i'm not sure what the issue was directly
Aug 06 21:17:19 corwyn    ?
Aug 06 21:17:25 daMaestro    it almost seemed as if zero email communication was requested
Aug 06 21:17:29 daMaestro    and that made no sense to me
Aug 06 21:17:31 daMaestro    EOF
Aug 06 21:17:33 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 21:17:34 Sonar_Guy    That issue has been placed in our bug tracker to get the ball rolling and correc that issue.
Aug 06 21:17:37 Sonar_Guy    eof
Aug 06 21:17:45 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Aug 06 21:18:00 corwyn    daMaestro, can you look into it and see what needs to be done to implement it, then let us know if it'll fit our needs?
Aug 06 21:18:01 corwyn    eof
Aug 06 21:18:05 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:18:09 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:18:21 daMaestro    please make sure this item has its own bug tracker report
Aug 06 21:18:27 daMaestro    and then i have no issue doing so
Aug 06 21:18:28 daMaestro    EOF
Aug 06 21:18:33 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 06 21:18:39 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 21:18:42 Sonar_Guy    It is in the tracker as bug 2 iirc.
Aug 06 21:18:44 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 06 21:19:01 corwyn    !!!
Aug 06 21:19:09 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Aug 06 21:19:10 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:19:10 corwyn    can item 4 be removed?
Aug 06 21:19:12 corwyn    eof
Aug 06 21:19:15 Sonar_Guy    +1
Aug 06 21:19:18 daMaestro    +1
Aug 06 21:19:24 Sonar_Gal    +1
Aug 06 21:19:36 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:19:56 daMaestro    i don't see an item on the bug tracker for this issue.. and thus i will ignore it until then (the check-in check-out feature)
Aug 06 21:19:57 daMaestro    EOF
Aug 06 21:20:27 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 06 21:20:31 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 21:20:46 Sonar_Guy    I will put it in now.
Aug 06 21:20:47 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 06 21:20:51 daMaestro    thanks
Aug 06 21:21:02 Sonar_Gal    5. # Next update to RESPIN ISOs of FC5.
Aug 06 21:21:02 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-AUG-04
Aug 06 21:21:02 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Re-Spin Team
Aug 06 21:21:02 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: First Re-Spin release it out dated 2006-May-23, Next release for test is due 3rd week of June. Bob tested i386 and x86_64, both work, will shoot for a snapshot tuesday. To be fully completed 2006-JUL-09. Waiting to see if FC6 will still need respins. Waiting for new kernel to be released due to preliminary testing issues. Postponed until 2006-AUG-04.
Aug 06 21:21:09 daMaestro    everyone please add your comments so we really understand what is needed *
Aug 06 21:21:30 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:21:31 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:21:34 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:21:35 daMaestro    waiting for a new kernel EOF
Aug 06 21:21:44 EvilBob    X
Aug 06 21:21:59 Sonar_Gal    # Test next release for Fedora Unity Re-Spins.
Aug 06 21:21:59 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-AUG-11
Aug 06 21:21:59 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Test-Lead
Aug 06 21:21:59 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: All testing to be completed No later than 2006-AUG-11. Update the testing matrix as you complete a task on the list.
Aug 06 21:22:07 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:22:11 Sonar_Gal    Same here waiting for new kernel
Aug 06 21:22:23 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:22:27 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:22:33 daMaestro    lets take this item and time to discuss using the new bug tracking system for our test releases
Aug 06 21:22:35 daMaestro    EOF
Aug 06 21:22:52 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:23:31 EvilBob    I say if we do not have a new kernel by wednesday we do with what we have, and keep the older version available for those with issues
Aug 06 21:23:40 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 21:23:42 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:23:43 Sonar_Gal    +1
Aug 06 21:23:46 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:23:47 Sonar_Guy    +1
Aug 06 21:23:55 daMaestro    +0
Aug 06 21:23:58 corwyn    +1 EvilBob
Aug 06 21:24:06 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 06 21:24:13 daMaestro    do we have hte bandwidth for this?
Aug 06 21:24:14 daMaestro    EOF
Aug 06 21:24:20 daMaestro    s/hte/the
Aug 06 21:24:23 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 21:24:27 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:24:57 Sonar_Guy    Lets stay on track here we need to get through the task list the we can discuss new business such as the bug tracker and its implemetation for testing/re-spins.
Aug 06 21:24:58 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 06 21:25:04 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:25:18 EvilBob    I was thinking We move our primary seeds to the new version, let the community help with the old
Aug 06 21:25:27 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 21:25:33 Sonar_Guy    +1
Aug 06 21:25:37 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 06 21:25:38 Sonar_Gal    +1
Aug 06 21:25:42 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 21:26:02 Sonar_Guy    We can move the tracker to my system if needed for the current seed.
Aug 06 21:26:03 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 06 21:26:13 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:26:19 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:26:19 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:26:25 corwyn    +1 EvilBob
Aug 06 21:26:32 EvilBob    We should be able to track multiple releases on the single tracker
Aug 06 21:26:43 EvilBob    that should not be a nissue
Aug 06 21:26:46 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 21:26:49 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:26:51 daMaestro    trackers take up very little bandwidth.. it is the 3Gx2 images that take bandwidth EOF
Aug 06 21:27:10 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 06 21:27:22 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 21:27:40 *    Southern_Gentlem (n=notfred@unaffiliated/Southern-Gentlem) has joined #fedora-unity
Aug 06 21:27:43 Sonar_Guy    I and others have both seeded and that should keep them going so you can conserve your bandwidth for the new re-spin daMaestro.
Aug 06 21:27:44 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 06 21:28:00 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:28:09 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:28:28 daMaestro    ok.. that sounds like a plan; i retract my concern with the release even if we don't have a new kernel. EOF
Aug 06 21:28:44 EvilBob    Next?
Aug 06 21:28:49 Sonar_Gal    7. # Spin out Test release LiveCDs. Spin out RAWHIDE LiveCDs. Automate RAWHIDE spins, spin Test LiveCD every Test release. The exact details are unknown at this time, however is an item in the Task List. This will help in aiding bug-smashers and other testers that do not wish to install a Test release or RAWHIDE, since they may be broken.. of course.
Aug 06 21:28:49 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: TBD
Aug 06 21:28:49 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Test-Lead
Aug 06 21:28:49 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: Details are unavailable, will update when more info is gained.
Aug 06 21:29:04 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:29:07 autopsy    !
Aug 06 21:29:07 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:29:12 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:29:17 daMaestro    didn't i ask about this a long time ago? i'm all for it! EOF
Aug 06 21:29:32 *    Sonar_Gal gives autopsy the floor.
Aug 06 21:29:36 Sonar_Guy    +1 to the task.
Aug 06 21:30:03 autopsy    YEs, daMaestro we just need to know how you want the ISOs to the server, I or Sonary_Guy I'm sure is willing to spin some out.
Aug 06 21:30:05 autopsy    EOF
Aug 06 21:30:15 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:30:17 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:30:38 EvilBob    autopsy has some famly stuff going on, and I have a family reunion this coming weekend I hope I can get together with him following the 14th to go over the details
Aug 06 21:30:59 EvilBob    I think we can make this happen and is a good idea
Aug 06 21:31:02 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 21:31:04 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:31:05 daMaestro    torrent all the way... is this going to be a 700M image? EOF
Aug 06 21:31:08 corwyn    +1
Aug 06 21:31:09 Sonar_Guy    +1
Aug 06 21:31:12 daMaestro    +1
Aug 06 21:31:12 Southern_Gentlem    +1
Aug 06 21:31:14 autopsy    +1
Aug 06 21:31:15 Sonar_Gal    +1
Aug 06 21:31:16 EvilBob    daMaestro: +1
Aug 06 21:31:37 Sonar_Guy    daMaestro: +1
Aug 06 21:31:52 autopsy    !
Aug 06 21:32:06 *    Sonar_Gal gives autopsy the floor.
Aug 06 21:32:21 Sonar_Guy    ?
Aug 06 21:32:43 autopsy    Yes, 700MB is about standard CD size.. that holds about 1.6GB in SquashFS.. we need so far a Test 2 ISO that I know of, one for each Test.
Aug 06 21:32:45 autopsy    EOF
Aug 06 21:32:59 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 21:32:59 Sonar_Guy    Can you 2 come up with a date to put on this task?
Aug 06 21:33:02 Sonar_Guy    eof
Aug 06 21:33:06 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:33:11 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:33:19 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:33:21 autopsy    !
Aug 06 21:33:57 daMaestro    how soon can an image be spun.. are we looking after the 14th? are we looking at doing different flavors? EOF
Aug 06 21:34:11 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:34:35 EvilBob    I really need more info before I can commit to a date, with everything else right now I would rather date this following the 14th
Aug 06 21:34:36 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 21:34:44 *    Sonar_Gal gives autopsy the floor.
Aug 06 21:35:18 autopsy    I can spin out an ISO _tonight_ and have it uploading by midnight.. however following EvilBob on this, I too push for after the 14th of Aug.
Aug 06 21:35:31 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:35:33 autopsy    No different flavors, e.g. just gnome. X.. etc.
Aug 06 21:35:34 autopsy    EOF
Aug 06 21:35:40 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 06 21:35:43 Southern_Gentlem    !
Aug 06 21:35:45 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 21:36:08 *    draven has quit ("Leaving")
Aug 06 21:36:14 Sonar_Guy    I was looking more towards the 20 - 27 august to give you guys more time.
Aug 06 21:36:15 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 06 21:36:16 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:36:27 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:36:59 daMaestro    i'd like to get involved in getting flavors out too.. (such as a better rescue CD, a cluster CD, etc).. autopsy push one out asap.. i'd like to see what they look like and will roll a torrent right away
Aug 06 21:37:10 autopsy    !
Aug 06 21:37:21 daMaestro    a have a few ideas i want to get moving on that have to do with liveCDs etc.. so this is great EOF
Aug 06 21:37:25 *    Sonar_Gal gives Southern_Gentlem the floor.
Aug 06 21:37:57 *    Sonar_Guy wants to remind everybody family matters come first!!!!
Aug 06 21:38:05 Southern_Gentlem    was going to make motion for the 27th
Aug 06 21:38:15 corwyn    +1
Aug 06 21:38:16 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Aug 06 21:38:19 autopsy    +1
Aug 06 21:38:20 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:38:23 EvilBob    I am thinking we should be able to push out an image by the end of next week say the 18th?
Aug 06 21:38:44 EvilBob    We can look at added flavors/options folowing that
Aug 06 21:38:44 corwyn    !
Aug 06 21:38:47 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 21:38:51 Sonar_Gal    so the 20th would be the date for this task?
Aug 06 21:39:01 EvilBob    Sonar_Gal: +1
Aug 06 21:39:01 *    Sonar_Gal gives autopsy the floor.
Aug 06 21:39:10 Sonar_Guy    +1
Aug 06 21:39:46 autopsy    Yes, The 18th is fine, or 27th.. however "rescue and cluster" CDs are only as good as Core.. we _cannot_ and _will_ not add anything outside of Core on a LiveCD.
Aug 06 21:39:47 autopsy    EOF
Aug 06 21:40:05 EvilBob    autopsy: +1
Aug 06 21:40:07 Sonar_Guy    autopsy: +1
Aug 06 21:40:09 Southern_Gentlem    +1
Aug 06 21:40:13 Sonar_Gal    autopsy, +1
Aug 06 21:40:27 Sonar_Gal    8.    8. Create back-up of the servers Unity01, Unity02, and Unity03 every sunday after the meeting. Also create a backup prior to any major configuration change.
Aug 06 21:40:27 Sonar_Gal              * DATE DUE: On-Going
Aug 06 21:40:27 Sonar_Gal              * ASSIGNED: Bob Jensen
Aug 06 21:40:27 Sonar_Gal                    o NOTES: Backup, Backup, Backup!!
Aug 06 21:40:38 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:40:42 Sonar_Gal    Are we going to continue with pri 2 and 3 tonight?
Aug 06 21:40:46 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:40:52 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 06 21:41:25 EvilBob    With the added subdomain this week for tracking bugs I will be stopping server1 to make a complete copy plus the snapshots
Aug 06 21:41:27 corwyn    Sonar_Gal: +1
Aug 06 21:41:38 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 21:41:45 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 21:41:46 Sonar_Guy    I think that the Pri 2 and Pri 3 issues should be moved to the bug trackers as applicable.
Aug 06 21:41:48 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 06 21:42:24 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:42:29 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:42:39 daMaestro    i welcome anyone to setup trackers for bugs as examples
Aug 06 21:42:52 daMaestro    you may add them in your home folder on bugs.fedoraunity.org
Aug 06 21:42:58 daMaestro    play around with it.. learn it.
Aug 06 21:43:18 daMaestro    this will only be useful if people use them EOF
Aug 06 21:43:29 Sonar_Guy    +!
Aug 06 21:43:32 Sonar_Guy    +1
Aug 06 21:43:39 EvilBob    +1
Aug 06 21:43:45 Sonar_Gal    +1
Aug 06 21:43:57 corwyn    +1
Aug 06 21:44:30 Sonar_Gal    PRIORITY 2 TASKS:
Aug 06 21:44:34 Sonar_Gal    1. # We need to review our posts and those that can be pushed to the Fedora Wiki FAQ should be moved, then for our purposes linking to the Wiki. This will allow the community to take over the upkeep.
Aug 06 21:44:35 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-JUL-16
Aug 06 21:44:35 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Content-Team
Aug 06 21:44:35 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: Please keep in mind that the data must follow the "content rules" of the FedoraProject.
Aug 06 21:45:01 Sonar_Guy    ?
Aug 06 21:45:05 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 21:45:25 Sonar_Guy    How do we want to do this put the posts that can be migrated on the Fedora Project Wiki??
Aug 06 21:45:28 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 06 21:45:36 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:45:41 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:46:10 EvilBob    Lets start a page on FU.o that lists items that we think are suitable
Aug 06 21:46:19 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 21:46:48 EvilBob    then those of us in the Docs Project can see where we thing they fit on the Wiki or create draft items
Aug 06 21:46:52 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 21:47:00 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:47:01 daMaestro    maybe use a bug tracker? do we just want a simple page? EOF
Aug 06 21:47:23 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:47:30 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:47:37 EvilBob    I think a simple page to get the ball rolloing
Aug 06 21:47:45 EvilBob    we can mature it from there
Aug 06 21:47:49 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 21:48:04 daMaestro    ok
Aug 06 21:48:16 Sonar_Gal    2. # Generate a post about how to install 32bit firefox on 64bit system
Aug 06 21:48:16 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: Completed
Aug 06 21:48:16 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Scott Glaser
Aug 06 21:48:16 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES:
Aug 06 21:48:24 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 06 21:48:30 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 21:48:49 Sonar_Guy    This task should be completed as of today, it was submitted to the Edit-Team for final cleanup/publish.
Aug 06 21:48:50 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 06 21:48:57 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:49:02 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:49:09 EvilBob    Good job Scott
Aug 06 21:49:11 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 21:49:17 corwyn    !
Aug 06 21:49:23 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Aug 06 21:49:26 corwyn    that was completed and published
Aug 06 21:49:27 *    Sonar_Guy thanks EvilBob!!
Aug 06 21:49:28 corwyn    eof
Aug 06 21:49:41 Sonar_Gal    corwyn, please remove that task from the list.
Aug 06 21:49:45 corwyn    done
Aug 06 21:49:53 Sonar_Gal    3. # Clean-up the HTML code in the posts and the TEMPLATES using tidy and attempt to script the cleanup process, also document the process for inclusion in the POST how-to.
Aug 06 21:49:53 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: On-Going
Aug 06 21:49:53 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Scott Glaser
Aug 06 21:49:53 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: This needs to be addressed by an editor that does not mangle the html code once it is posted into the site. Creating a work-around is not the proper fix. Reference Pri 1 Item 2.
Aug 06 21:50:12 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 06 21:50:13 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:50:17 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 21:50:45 Sonar_Guy    I think this can be moved to the Content/Edit Bug Tracker, for statusing purposes.
Aug 06 21:50:48 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 06 21:50:49 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:50:59 corwyn    Sonar_Guy: +1
Aug 06 21:51:00 daMaestro    Q
Aug 06 21:51:03 daMaestro    err !
Aug 06 21:51:25 EvilBob    Sonar_Guy: Have you had time for this? Is it something we as a group should look at in the next couple weeks?
Aug 06 21:51:28 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 21:51:32 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 21:51:43 corwyn    !
Aug 06 21:51:46 daMaestro    we need to work on our template and update it for the new changes in the standard plone css EOF
Aug 06 21:51:54 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 06 21:51:59 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 21:52:38 Sonar_Guy    EvilBob: I have not had much time to look at this lately, but yes it would be nice to look a as a gorup and determine a good work flow to complete this task.
Aug 06 21:52:39 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 06 21:52:48 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:52:57 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:53:33 Southern_Gentlem    !
Aug 06 21:53:35 EvilBob    Can we schedule an old fashoned brain storm session for it to allow for input following a tracker ticket being created?
Aug 06 21:53:38 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 21:53:53 *    Sonar_Gal gives Southern_Gentlem the floor.
Aug 06 21:54:00 Southern_Gentlem    makes motion this be a wednesday nite brain drain session
Aug 06 21:54:01 corwyn    X
Aug 06 21:54:02 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Aug 06 21:54:16 corwyn    +0
Aug 06 21:54:25 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:54:28 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 06 21:54:31 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:54:55 EvilBob    If corwyn wants to be part of it and I assmue he will we will need another night than wednesday
Aug 06 21:55:10 EvilBob    Maybe a tuesday or thursday
Aug 06 21:55:13 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 21:55:14 corwyn    +1
Aug 06 21:55:14 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 21:55:16 Sonar_Guy    Monday or Tuesday are the only days I will be available until after 16 August!
Aug 06 21:55:18 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 06 21:55:29 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:55:32 corwyn    !
Aug 06 21:55:34 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:55:35 *    sankarshan (n=sankarsh@202.149.56.110) has joined #fedora-unity
Aug 06 21:55:40 EvilBob    Can we do it this tuesday>?
Aug 06 21:55:51 EvilBob    I am game if you guys want
Aug 06 21:55:51 Sonar_Guy    +1
Aug 06 21:55:54 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 21:55:55 Sonar_Gal    +1
Aug 06 21:56:00 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Aug 06 21:56:01 corwyn    any night other than wednesday works for me
Aug 06 21:56:04 corwyn    eof
Aug 06 21:56:10 Southern_Gentlem    +1
Aug 06 21:56:11 corwyn    +1
Aug 06 21:56:21 EvilBob    daMaestro?
Aug 06 21:56:29 daMaestro    +1
Aug 06 21:56:45 Sonar_Gal    Tuesday what time?
Aug 06 21:57:05 EvilBob    OK Normal time 01:00
Aug 06 21:57:10 EvilBob    I think
Aug 06 21:57:22 Sonar_Gal    9pm EDT
Aug 06 21:57:26 daMaestro    so Wed 01:00 UTC
Aug 06 21:57:29 Southern_Gentlem    0:30
Aug 06 21:57:32 corwyn    any time after 6 pm edt
Aug 06 21:57:50 *    sm|CPU (n=sankarsh@202.149.56.110) has joined #fedora-unity
Aug 06 21:57:59 daMaestro    any time after 6:45 MDT
Aug 06 21:58:04 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:58:10 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:58:32 EvilBob    I do not think this will take a lot of time, we can get a lot done on this kind of thing
Aug 06 21:58:41 Sonar_Gal    ok so normal time Tuesday night which is 9EDT, 8CDT 7 MDT
Aug 06 21:58:46 *    Southern_Gentlem crosses fingers*
Aug 06 21:58:51 EvilBob    Sonar_Gal: +1
Aug 06 21:59:01 corwyn    Sonar_Gal: +1
Aug 06 21:59:04 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 21:59:05 Southern_Gentlem    +1
Aug 06 21:59:06 daMaestro    Sonar_Gal, +!
Aug 06 21:59:08 daMaestro    lol
Aug 06 21:59:14 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 21:59:37 EvilBob    added note I will see about touching up the templates tomorrow and tuesday in the day as time allows
Aug 06 21:59:43 Sonar_Guy    +1
Aug 06 21:59:44 EvilBob    eof
Aug 06 21:59:59 Sonar_Gal    4. # Index sites scattered through fedoraforum.org Links forum and add them to the FedoraUnity.Org site as applicable.
Aug 06 21:59:59 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: 2006-SEP-01
Aug 06 21:59:59 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Scott Glaser
Aug 06 21:59:59 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: This task is somewhat in progress, It has been suggested that Scott also look at the Redhat Solutions and verify that we do not replicate content already posted there. This was brought up on fedora last night.
Aug 06 22:00:14 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 06 22:00:19 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 22:00:27 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 22:00:38 Sonar_Guy    This should also be moved to the bug tracker but could also use some community input.
Aug 06 22:00:41 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 06 22:00:44 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 22:00:44 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 22:00:57 daMaestro    the indexer could be run again as it has not in a while... however, I would like to build the new version and make some configuration changes i have been playing around with at work EOF
Aug 06 22:01:11 Sonar_Guy    ?
Aug 06 22:01:13 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 22:01:46 EvilBob    IMO we should close this, it has been around since nearly day one with little action from anyone including my self, we know what people want and make it happen based on #fedora
Aug 06 22:02:05 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 22:02:07 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 22:02:09 Sonar_Guy    Do we really need this task with FedoraSearch.Org running, also is there a way to run the indexer say once a week to keep the search engine up to date?
Aug 06 22:02:11 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 06 22:02:17 Sonar_Gal    EvilBob, +1
Aug 06 22:02:29 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 22:02:34 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 22:02:47 Sonar_Guy    EvilBob: +1
Aug 06 22:02:48 daMaestro    yes.. it just needs to be added to a cron job.. i guess i could get around to that lol!.. add it to the bug tracker! :-P
Aug 06 22:03:04 daMaestro    EOF
Aug 06 22:03:30 corwyn    !! item removed from task list eof
Aug 06 22:03:46 Sonar_Gal    5.     5. Edit all public posts on all sites for grammar, spelling and formatting
Aug 06 22:03:47 Sonar_Gal              * DATE DUE: 2006-SEP-01
Aug 06 22:03:47 Sonar_Gal              * ASSIGNED: Edit Team
Aug 06 22:03:47 Sonar_Gal                    o NOTES:
Aug 06 22:03:50 corwyn    !
Aug 06 22:03:55 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Aug 06 22:04:17 corwyn    this is on going and progressing. If any other members of the edit team would like to be involved, please let me know
Aug 06 22:04:18 corwyn    eof
Aug 06 22:04:35 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 22:04:45 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 22:04:51 daMaestro    i think there is a spell check plugin that we can install.. though I have not looked hard EOF
Aug 06 22:05:00 Sonar_Gal    lol
Aug 06 22:05:00 corwyn    !
Aug 06 22:05:04 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Aug 06 22:05:18 corwyn    no need, I've got a great spell checker :points to head:
Aug 06 22:05:19 corwyn    eof
Aug 06 22:05:28 Southern_Gentlem    !
Aug 06 22:05:33 *    Sonar_Gal gives Southern_Gentlem the floor.
Aug 06 22:05:40 Southern_Gentlem    but the rest of us could use it
Aug 06 22:05:42 Southern_Gentlem    eof
Aug 06 22:05:46 corwyn    lol
Aug 06 22:05:56 Sonar_Gal    ok Pri 2 is complete.
Aug 06 22:06:00 Sonar_Gal    PRIORITY 3 TASKS:
Aug 06 22:06:07 Sonar_Gal    # Have the project reach out to all the other sites and encourage them to assist us in our goal to bring the Fedora Community closer together
Aug 06 22:06:07 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: On-Going
Aug 06 22:06:07 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Not Assigned
Aug 06 22:06:07 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES:
Aug 06 22:06:09 *    Sonar_Guy added bug 5 to the server team bug tracker.
Aug 06 22:06:23 daMaestro    Sonar_Guy, thanks
Aug 06 22:06:29 Sonar_Gal    These are on going tasks if there is any input!
Aug 06 22:06:57 Sonar_Guy    ?
Aug 06 22:07:06 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 22:08:26 Sonar_Guy    Have we reached out lately to fedoraforum.org or any other sites lately? It would be nice if we could get some of the solutions from their site incorporated to our sites, at one point fedorared was here helping but we have not seen him lately.
Aug 06 22:09:10 Sonar_Guy    Also Avatraxiom who runs fedorfaq.org may be another good person to get in contact with, Maybe we can get mether to assist us in this effort.
Aug 06 22:09:12 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 06 22:09:27 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 22:09:29 EvilBob    !!
Aug 06 22:09:30 Southern_Gentlem    !
Aug 06 22:09:40 *    Sonar_Gal shows daMaestro the link http://fedorasolved.org/browser-solutions/flash/
Aug 06 22:09:51 *    daMaestro goes and installs flash :-P
Aug 06 22:09:59 Sonar_Guy    lol
Aug 06 22:10:06 Sonar_Gal    damn sorry daMaestro didn't mean to flash you
Aug 06 22:10:18 daMaestro    maybe we should send a message to the official mailing lists
Aug 06 22:10:19 Southern_Gentlem    whoohoo
Aug 06 22:10:22 corwyn    damn, he gets all the goodies
Aug 06 22:10:24 daMaestro    eof
Aug 06 22:10:25 *    corwyn ducks
Aug 06 22:10:26 daMaestro    lol
Aug 06 22:10:38 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 22:10:43 EvilBob    Max of the FAQ is not interested, our license it not compatable with his goal,
Aug 06 22:10:59 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 22:11:07 Southern_Gentlem    -1
Aug 06 22:11:08 EvilBob    so that is a dead end, we will keep doing what we have in the past posting the way we do
Aug 06 22:11:13 Southern_Gentlem    -!
Aug 06 22:11:20 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 22:11:28 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 22:11:40 daMaestro    what is his license? what is our point in using OPL v .. say CC? EOF
Aug 06 22:11:52 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 06 22:12:00 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 22:12:08 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 22:13:05 Sonar_Guy    He is out to make money on his site I forgot about that, but perhaps Mether would be a good point of contact to start pinging the other sites or as daMaestro stated we post on the official lists looking for cooperation from the other sites.
Aug 06 22:13:13 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 06 22:13:16 *    Sonar_Gal gives EvilBob the floor.
Aug 06 22:13:34 EvilBob    daMaestro: he has no License, he owns the content, much like closed source IMO, I sbmitted several updated items to him witht he FC5 release and they were all denied because of the "attribution" requirement
Aug 06 22:13:50 daMaestro    ok
Aug 06 22:14:23 EvilBob    I think with the FC6 release we should begin courting additional sites
Aug 06 22:14:55 EvilBob    between now and then we can really get our shit together and perfect what we have the works pretty well now
Aug 06 22:15:01 EvilBob    EOF
Aug 06 22:15:09 Sonar_Guy    +1
Aug 06 22:15:11 Sonar_Gal    +1
Aug 06 22:15:15 Southern_Gentlem    +1
Aug 06 22:15:17 corwyn    +1
Aug 06 22:15:29 Sonar_Gal    ok last item for tonight.
Aug 06 22:15:39 corwyn    then open floor
Aug 06 22:15:40 Sonar_Gal    # Locate a module that allows for exporting the calendar to to various formats.
Aug 06 22:15:40 Sonar_Gal        * DATE DUE: On-Going
Aug 06 22:15:40 Sonar_Gal        * ASSIGNED: Scott Glaser, daMaestro
Aug 06 22:15:40 Sonar_Gal              o NOTES: So far I have tried 3 modules the first 2 will not even run on our version of Zope/Plone. The Last is severly lacking. Research is still on-going.
Aug 06 22:15:49 corwyn    !
Aug 06 22:15:59 *    Sonar_Gal gives corwyn the floor.
Aug 06 22:16:01 Sonar_Guy    !
Aug 06 22:16:14 corwyn    I recommend something that exports to ical, most programs can accept that format and shouldn't be an issue
Aug 06 22:16:17 corwyn    eof
Aug 06 22:16:23 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 22:16:37 Sonar_Guy    We have a way to implement ploneical, I will submit a bug tracker to get it installed and implemented.
Aug 06 22:16:39 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 06 22:17:03 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 22:17:12 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 22:17:46 daMaestro    so far I have not found an easy way to have a single 'calendar' for allsites.. thus the calendar has been removed from all sites but unity..
Aug 06 22:18:04 daMaestro    to add an item to the 'calendar' all you do is add an event afaik
Aug 06 22:18:28 daMaestro    maybe we should covert our 'todo' list into events to keep people on track
Aug 06 22:18:55 daMaestro    another neat feature of this.. is you can subscribe to the ical output and then unity items will show up in your 'clock' applet
Aug 06 22:19:02 daMaestro    for example; in gnome
Aug 06 22:19:17 daMaestro    which.. afaik the tasks feature is run by evolution
Aug 06 22:19:18 daMaestro    eof
Aug 06 22:19:29 Sonar_Guy    ?
Aug 06 22:19:39 *    Sonar_Gal gives Sonar_Guy the floor.
Aug 06 22:19:44 Sonar_Guy    Is this with the stock calender in Plone??
Aug 06 22:19:45 Sonar_Guy    EOF
Aug 06 22:20:17 daMaestro    the stock calendar does not support ical output.. we will need to setup ploneical
Aug 06 22:20:32 Sonar_Guy    +1 Entering Bug now with the patch attached.
Aug 06 22:20:37 daMaestro    ok
Aug 06 22:20:44 daMaestro    !
Aug 06 22:20:50 *    Sonar_Gal gives daMaestro the floor.
Aug 06 22:20:59 daMaestro    i will wait for a full backup for that one.. how well do you have it tested Sonar_Guy ?
Aug 06 22:21:01 daMaestro    EOF
Aug 06 22:21:09 *    Sonar_Gal now opens the floor for discussion. 
Aug 06 22:21:15 Sonar_Gal    there now is that easier
Aug 06 22:21:19 corwyn    ok, 2 things from the edit team
Aug 06 22:21:21 daMaestro    yes
Aug 06 22:21:24 Sonar_Guy    I have played with it a bit and it is extremely stable.
Aug 06 22:21:43 Sonar_Guy    Functionality is what needs to be played with at this point in time.
Aug 06 22:21:46 *    daMaestro runs around yelling !!!! give me the floor !!!! give me the floor !!!
Aug 06 22:21:48 daMaestro    lol
Aug 06 22:21:54 corwyn    first, as meeting secretary, if anything needs to be removed from the task list in lieu of a bug post, please let me know
Aug 06 22:22:25 EvilBob    !
Aug 06 22:22:37 *    daMaestro stabs bob with his !
Aug 06 22:23:01 *    EvilBob makes a motion that corwyn needs a longer skirt as a secretary
Aug 06 22:23:02 corwyn    and second, I posted the edit team guidelines brought up last week and made it public-draft. I also posted to the e-mail list but have heard nothing back on it, no comments, concerns or requested changes. If anyone has any of these, please reply to the e-mail...that is all
Aug 06 22:23:08 daMaestro    LOL
Aug 06 22:23:14 Southern_Gentlem    -1
Aug 06 22:23:22 corwyn    you can buy me a kilt (very expensive)
Aug 06 22:23:50 Southern_Gentlem    EvilBob, you have never seen his knees
Aug 06 22:24:13 corwyn    yes, but you have
Aug 06 22:24:14 corwyn    :)
Aug 06 22:24:18 Southern_Gentlem    yep
Aug 06 22:24:35 Southern_Gentlem    that why i am saying it
Aug 06 22:24:53 *    corwyn has very nice knees
Aug 06 22:25:04 Southern_Gentlem    Sonar_Guy,  can i get your help with a nfs probelm real fast
Aug 06 22:25:15 EvilBob    Anythign else?
Aug 06 22:25:25 corwyn    from me, no
Aug 06 22:25:27 daMaestro    we need to design the re-spin bug tracker
Aug 06 22:25:39 daMaestro    but whoever can do that whenever.. and i might even get to it
Aug 06 22:25:43 Southern_Gentlem    i had someone ask if we had a wish list of posts
Aug 06 22:25:48 Sonar_Guy    Southern_Gentlem: PM me
Aug 06 22:26:25 corwyn    task list saved
Aug 06 22:26:31 Sonar_Guy    Southern_Gentlem: have them go to http://bugs.fedoraunity.org/content-edit-bugs and add a bug for a feature request.
Aug 06 22:28:49 *    daMaestro motions to end the meeting
Aug 06 22:28:53 corwyn    +1
Aug 06 22:29:12 Sonar_Guy    +1
Aug 06 22:29:30 EvilBob    +1
Aug 06 22:29:31 *    Sonar_Gal now calls this meeting closed!